Top_Gunn

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How about the Lockheed Electra? I can't find anything about one being license-built, but Japan made some license-built Super Electras. And one version appears in the airport scene in Casablanca.

Hydro Junkie

Ju-88, was designed as a passenger liner initially and converted to a bomber after it proved to be a viable design

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Beaufighter?

MJD

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C-119?

Ernie P.

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How about the Avro Anson? With the possible exception of the movie thing, it seems to fit. Thanks; Ernie P.


The AvroAnson is a British twin-engined, multi-role aircraft that servedwith the RoyalAir Force, Fleet Air Arm, RoyalCanadian Air Force and numerous other air forces before,during, and after the SecondWorld War. Developed from the Avro 652 airliner, theAnson, named after British AdmiralGeorgeAnson, was developed for maritime reconnaissance, butfound to be obsolete in this role. It was then found to be suitable as amulti-engined aircrew trainer,becoming the mainstay of the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan. By the end ofproduction in 1952, a total of 8,138 had been built by Avro in nine variants, with a further 2,882 built byFederal Aircraft Ltd in Canada from 1941.

In 1933, the British Air Ministry proposedthat the RoyalAir Force (RAF) acquire a relatively cheap landplane for coastalmaritime reconnaissance duties, as a supplement to the more capable, butexpensive flyingboats that the RAF used for maritime reconnaissance. The AirMinistry requestedtenders for aircraft to meet this requirement, with Avro responding with the Avro 652A, a modifiedversion of the Avro 652 twin-engined,six-seat monoplane airliner. TheAir Ministry placed orders with Avro and de Havilland for singleexamples of the Type 652A and the deHavilland DH.89 for evaluation against this requirement latein 1934, with evaluation and selection of a design for production to take placeby May 1935. The Avro 652A first flew on 24 March 1935 at Avro's Woodfordfactory, and was evaluated against the DH.89M by the RAF Coastal DefenceDevelopment Unit at Gosport from 11to 17 May. The Avro aircraft proved superior, and was selected as the winner ofthe competition on 25 May. Air Ministry Specification 18/35 was written aroundthe Type 652A, and an initial order for 174 aircraft, to be called"Anson", was placed in July 1935. The first production Anson made itsmaiden flight on 31 December 1935; changes from the prototype included anenlarged horizonal tailplane andreduced Elevatorspan to improve stability. Deliveries to the RAF began on 6 March 1936.
The Anson Mk I was a low-wing cantilevermonoplane with aretractable undercarriage, the first type with this configuration to enter servicewith the RAF. It had a wooden wing, of plywood and spruceconstruction, while the fuselage wasconstructed of steel tubing, mainly clad in fabric, but with the aircraft'snose clad in magnesiumalloy. It was powered by two ArmstrongSiddeley Cheetah IX seven-cylinder air-cooled radial engines, ratedat 350 horsepower (260 kW) each,[SUP][8][/SUP] driving two-bladed metal propellers. Theaircraft's retractable Conventional landing gear undercarriagewas manually operated, requiring 144 turns of a crank handle situated by thepilot's seat. To forgo this laborious process, early aircraft often made shortflights with the landing gear extended at the expense of 30 mph(50 km/h) of cruising speed.
Initially, the Anson was flownwith a three-man crew (pilot, navigator/bomb-aimer andradio-operator/gunner) in the maritime reconnaissance role, but from 1938 itoperated with a four-man crew. Armament consisted of a single .303 in (7.7 mm) Vickersmachine gun fixed in the forward fuselage and aimed by thepilot, with an Armstrong Whitworth manually operated dorsal gun turret fittedwith a single Lewis gun. Up to360 pounds (160 kg) of bombs, consisting of two 100 pounds (45 kg)and eight 20 pounds (9 kg) bombs, could be carried in the aircraft'swings. Ansons used for training were fitted with dual controls and usually hadthe gun turret removed, although aircraft used for gunnery training were fittedwith a Bristolhydraulically-operated gun turret similar to that used in the Bristol Blenheim.
A total of 11,020 Ansons werebuilt by the end of production in 1952, making it the second most numerous(after the VickersWellington) British multi-engined aircraft of the war.

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FWIW Ernie..I think the Anson is in "Captains of the Clouds?" (Jimmy Cagney, Dennis Morgan, Alan Hale, George Tobias, etc. etc... )
Just something that popped into my enfeebled brain... Now I will have forced myself to look that up...

Seen it in at least one British movie...anyway...WWII time span..

MJD

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There were Hudsons in it AFAIK. And Norsemen (Norsemans?).

Sorry a bit OT, but funny.. a local aircraft restorer/mechanic who has done some work for me on the Moth, has a hilarious story about his early days working on someone's Norseman. He doesn't mention the gash on his leg from the float, not vital to the story:

The following story came to me from Stan Vander Ploeg who used to work for Fred and Ann Chiupka in Lynn Lake. Fred ran a small fleet of air planes in conjunction with his fishery in Northen Manitoba. CF-EPZ, an ex Ontario Central Airlines Norseman that Hank Parsons bought in January of 1959, was leased to Fred before he bought it. As an operator, Fred wanted his planes in the air, not sitting at the dock being loaded or unloaded. To that end, he had lots of help available to assist his pilots. Stan was one of them.
As the tubs of fresh fish were brought in from the north they would be unloaded at the filleting plant and the guts from the previous load would be put on the plane. I would be called from the main dock to go to the filleting plant to assist. The pilot (Ernie) would start up the engine, I would untie the aircraft and stand on the left float and ride the aircraft to an island across from the main dock and dump the guts there, and ride the float back to the main dock reload and refuel the aircraft for the next flight.
It was at one particular time, as I stepped on the float of EPZ after dumping the guts, that Ernie detailed me to hang on because he suspected a magneto problem and that he would carry out a high power run on the way back to check out the mag problem. He turned the air craft into the wind and revd her up, checked the mags, then he throttled back and taxied back to the start point. It was a bit breezy hugging the float struts but I toughed it out any how. After turning into the wind, again he reved her up. This time it was balls to the wall. I pounded on the side of the fuselage to remind Ernie that I was still there, but to no avail. The big Norseman was about to get on the step, and as I thought she might get airborne, I crouched into ball and rolled off the side of the float. I rolled at least one rotation on top of the water before going in. After surfacing and getting my breath back I watched the aircraft lift off the water.
As I was wondering if he would come back to get me I heard a racket from the dock, Sal (Stan Warschuck, I think), came out with a motorboat to rescue me. Ernie came back after a test circuit and apologized up and down for his part in this.
This of course was the talk of the dinner table. They concluded that I probably could have hung on for the entire circuit. Now that might have been exiting but I'm glad I got off when I did anyway. As a result of this ordeal I still wear a scar on my right knee where I hit the chine above the step of the left float on my way down. Today there would be a hell of an investigation over this, and an episode like this would be called an incident wouldn't you think? Back in those days, stuff like this was quite common. We are today so cautious and safety minded that there are few stories left for the next generation. Maybe that is just as well.
Contributed by Stan Vander Ploeg

jimharley

Great guesses! Getting warmer!

1. Designed in the mid 30's
2. The Boeing 247 and Douglas DC-2 were inspiration for this design
3. The last of the breed was retired in the early 70's
4. shared engines with other well known airplanes
5. there is only 1 that is potentially airworthy today
6. License built by 1 other country
7. Twin Engine
8. Subject of numerous paintings
9. Crew size ranged from 2 to 5
10. Served with 8 different Air Forces
11. Proved to be a versatile design...both civilian and military
12. was featured in a movie...this should narrow it down
13. A couple versions were built to tow gliders

MJD

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Ok.. Boeing 247?

elmshoot

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Flight of the Phoenix

Three Fairchild C-82 Packet cargo planes were required for filming and were located at Long Beach Airport, CA. They were all operated by Steward-Davis Inc., and were registered as N6887C, N4833V and N53228.

elmshoot

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I think you did the right thing by abandoning ship when you did. As a young stud 19 year old I'm not sure I would have made the exit but I think I just might have been able to hang on for the circuit.
That water had to have been 15C or colder. You wouldn't have lasted too long in the water either.

Sparky

jimharley

Not yet

1. Designed in the mid 30's
2. The Boeing 247 and Douglas DC-2 were inspiration for this design
3. The last of the breed was retired in the early 70's
4. shared engines with other well known airplanes
5. there is only 1 that is potentially airworthy today
6. License built by 1 other country
7. Twin Engine
8. Subject of numerous paintings
9. Crew size ranged from 2 to 5
10. Served with 8 different Air Forces
11. Proved to be a versatile design...both civilian and military
12. was featured in a movie...this should narrow it down
13. A couple versions were built to tow gliders
14. Not long ago one was pulled out of a lake largely intact
15. The last flying example crashed here in the states

Hydro Junkie

Several planes were featured in movies:
30 seconds over Tokyo had the B-25
Strategic Air Command had the B-36 and B-47
In one Disney movie, a crashed B-29 was used upside down as a boat
In "Spirit of St Lewis", the plane was a modified Ryan M-2
In "Lost Horizons", a DC2/3 was used in the first half of the movie
"The Flying Tigers" featured various P-40s and T-6s reworked into A6Ms
"The Flying Leathernecks" featured F4F Wildcats and the already mentioned T-6s
Both the movie and TV versions of "Black Sheep Squadron" used the F4U Corsairs and the T-6s
In the "Iron Eagle" series of movies, the F-16, F-4 T-6 P-38, Bubble canopied Spitfire, P-51(repainted to look like an ME-109) and Mirage were all featured
"Top Gun" featured the F-14 Tomcat, the A-4 Skyhawk and T-38 Talon
Let's not forget Harrison Ford's Air Force One and it's so called "*******ized" 747
Need I go on?

jimharley

So close...you guys are tap dancing around the answer...when you figure it out it'll be OH yeah...that's it

1. Designed in the mid 30's
2. The Boeing 247 and Douglas DC-2 were inspiration for this design
3. The last of the breed was retired in the early 70's
4. shared engines with other well known airplanes
5. there is only 1 that is potentially airworthy today
6. License built by 1 other country
7. Twin Engine
8. Subject of numerous paintings
9. Crew size ranged from 2 to 5
10. Served with 8 different Air Forces
11. Proved to be a versatile design...both civilian and military
12. was featured in a movie...this should narrow it down
13. A couple versions were built to tow gliders
14. Not long ago one was pulled out of a lake largely intact
15. The last flying example crashed here in the states
16. Tacka tacka tacka

jimharley

Here is another 80% of these come from wiki

1. Designed in the mid 30's
2. The Boeing 247 and Douglas DC-2 were inspiration for this design
3. The last of the breed was retired in the early 70's
4. shared engines with other well known airplanes
5. there is only 1 that is potentially airworthy today
6. License built by 1 other country
7. Twin Engine
8. Subject of numerous paintings
9. Crew size ranged from 2 to 5
10. Served with 8 different Air Forces
11. Proved to be a versatile design...both civilian and military
12. was featured in a movie...this should narrow it down
13. A couple versions were built to tow gliders
14. Not long ago one was pulled out of a lake largely intact
15. The last flying example crashed here in the states
16. Tacka tacka tacka
17. The wing leading edge was straightened to ease production...from a semi elliptical shape

Top_Gunn

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Heinkel 111?

jimharley

Yes!!!! you got it! You have the con

1. Designed in the mid 30's
2. The Boeing 247 and Douglas DC-2 were inspiration for this design
· The Germans used the early American airliners as inspiration to help build and disguise the new Luftwaffe
3. The last of the breed was retired in the early 70's
The Spanish Air Force retired its last CASA in the early 70’s
4. shared engines with other well known airplanes
Early models had the DB600 and 601 (109) and the Merlin in the CASA
5. there is only 1 that is potentially airworthy today
One lives at the Cavanaugh air Museum in TX that can be made airworthy
6. License built by 1 other country
Spain
7. Twin Engine
8. Subject of numerous paintings
Robert Taylor is a prominent Aviation artist that has done numerous BoB paintings featuring the 111
9. Crew size ranged from 2 to 5
10. Served with 8 different Air Forces
11. Proved to be a versatile design...both civilian and military
Was used shortly as an airliner and as a bomber
12. was featured in a movie...this should narrow it down [IMG]file:///C:/Users/Jim/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.png[/IMG]
Battle of Brittain
13. A couple versions were built to tow gliders
The Gigante was towed by the HE-111 and the HE-111V twin fuselage version
14. Not long ago one was pulled out of a lake largely intact
15. The last flying example crashed here in the states
The CAF operated one for a number of years, unfortunately it was lost in a crash
16. Tacka tacka tacka
Fighter Pilot speak during the BoB
17. The wing leading edge was straightened to ease production...from a semi elliptical shape

Top_Gunn

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Great job of making a long-lasting quiz (in number of clues) about a very well-known plane! I had a notion about the Heinkel 111 this morning, but for some reason dropped the idea.

Here's one about a considerably more obscure aircraft:

Looking for an airplane.

1. Four-engine monoplane

2. Used only by the country in which it was designed and built.

3. Fewer than 50 produced.

proptop

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Piaggio P.108?

takatakataka
Spring Chicken to Shytehawk (sp?) in one easy lesson...

Boomps-a-daisy...it's enough to make you weep...(undercarriage lever a bit sticky, was it sir?)

You can teach Monkeys to fly better than that...

repeat please...repeat please...

Top_Gunn

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Not a bad guess, but no. I have to do a bit of research in an actual book before my next clue.

Top_Gunn

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Looking for an airplane.

Another clue:

1. Four-engine monoplane

2. Used only by the country in which it was designed and built.

3. Fewer than 50 produced.

4. Fixed landing gear.

Top_Gunn

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Friday morning clue:

Looking for an airplane.

1. Four-engine monoplane

2. Used only by the country in which it was designed and built.

3. Fewer than 50 produced.

4. Fixed landing gear.

5. Engines were powerful but unreliable and burned a lot of oil.

jimharley

Thanks Al! I am trying to keep it interesting and not too frustrating. Regarding your clues, the Tupelov 4 engine bomber comes to mind. It was touted as the 1st modern 4 engine bomber. But it was mass produced.

Top_Gunn

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Not a Tupolev bomber. But here's another clue.


Looking for an airplane.

1. Four-engine monoplane

2. Used only by the country in which it was designed and built.

3. Fewer than 50 produced.

4. Fixed landing gear.

5. Engines were powerful but unreliable and burned a lot of oil.

6. At the time, it was the largest plane flown by the one service than used it.

Top_Gunn

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Saturday morning clue:

Looking for an airplane.

1. Four-engine monoplane

2. Used only by the country in which it was designed and built.

3. Fewer than 50 produced.

4. Fixed landing gear.

5. Engines were powerful but unreliable and burned a lot of oil.

6. At the time, it was the largest plane flown by the one service than used it.

7. Crew of up to six, depending on the particular mission.