Top_Gunn

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That's the pilot! Highest-scoring Finnish pilot, and also the highest-scoring non-German pilot. His planes were never hit by fire from an enemy aircraft, though he was once hit by ground fire, perhaps friendly. His Wikipedia page has the basics; here's a site with somewhat more detail:

http://www.acestory.elknet.pl/juuti/juuti1.htm

You're up, Hydro.

Hydro Junkie

Okay, I'm going to throw an easy one at you guys. If it lasts more than five clues, someone is sandbagging
With that said, name the plane:
1) This plane never flew in combat but was based on one that did
Good Luck

Hydro Junkie

Time for a New Year's clue:
1) This plane never flew in combat but was based on one that did
2) There were 16 variants of this plane produced
Good Luck

Hydro Junkie

And, once again, it's new clue time:
1) This plane never flew in combat but was based on one that did
2) There were 16 variants of this plane produced
3) Two changes, included in the 75% redesign, were a folding vertical stabilizer and fully redesigned wings that allowed a larger ordinance load and longer range
Good Luck

Hydro Junkie

What the heck, let's throw in a bonus clue since it is a holiday:
1) This plane never flew in combat but was based on one that did
2) There were 16 variants of this plane produced
3) Two changes, included in the 75% redesign, were a folding vertical stabilizer and fully redesigned wings that allowed a larger ordinance load and longer range
4) Both the original plane and this redesign used the same number and type of engine with a total of approximately 14,000 HP
Good Luck

Hydro Junkie

And, once again, it's time for a new pair of clue:
1) This plane never flew in combat but was based on one that did
2) There were 16 variants of this plane produced
3) Two changes, included in the 75% redesign, were a folding vertical stabilizer and fully redesigned wings that allowed a larger ordinance load and longer range
4) Both the original plane and this redesign used the same number and type of engine with a total of approximately 14,000 HP
5) Two of the original aircraft became famous for doing something, in combat, that had never been done before
6) The redesigned plane carried one more machine gun than the original plane, that being a higher calibre
Good Luck

pd1

Are you talking about a Boeing B-50?

Hydro Junkie

Yes I am. And now, to go over the clues:
1) This plane never flew in combat but was based on one that did
The B-50 was a "Cold War" redesign of the B-29 that produced a more versatile aircraft
2) There were 16 variants of this plane produced
These variants included a heavy version, drone controller, two inflight refueling tankers, photo reconnaissance, jet engine equipped, trainers and meteorological research version, to name a few
3) Two changes, included in the 75% redesign, were a folding vertical stabilizer and fully redesigned wings that allowed a larger ordinance load and longer range
4) Both the original plane and this redesign used the same number and type of engine with a total of approximately 14,000 HP
The plane was powered by four P&W R-4360-35 Wasp Major Radials with 3500HP each
5) Two of the original aircraft became famous for doing something, in combat, that had never been done before
The B-29s Enola Gay and Bock's Car dropped the first and only nuclear bombs to be used against an enemy power
6) The redesigned plane carried one more machine gun than the original plane, that being a higher calibre
The B-50 was fitted with a forward mounted 20mm cannon

AND NOW PD1, YOU'RE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Top_Gunn

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If I remember correctly, pd1 has serious health problems which prevent him from posting questions. So I guess if we don't get a question from him by tomorrow, the floor is open. I'd rather not fill the gap myself because I've been on here a lot lately. I think all of us frequent posters would welcome seeing questions from newcomers or people who haven't posted here recently.

Hydro Junkie

Actually, PD1 sent me a PM asking me to run a quiz for him so, without further delay, PD1's quiz is up!
We're looking for an aircraft in this case:
1) Designed by a famous aviation designer, but not built in his homeland.

Hydro Junkie

Time for another clue:
We're looking for an aircraft in this case:
1) Designed by a famous aviation designer, but not built in his homeland.
2) This plane was this countries first jet aircraft.

jimharley

Hmmm...I'm gonna say Willy Messerschmidt...after the war he either moved and/or worked in Spain as aviation designer...I think it was the Seata Jet...spelling may be off

Jim

Hydro Junkie

You're correct, the spelling's off. That said, you guessed it, and on only the second clue. Here's PD1's clues for this quiz:
CASA HA 200 Saeta

Designed by a famous aviation designer, but not built in his homeland.
This countries first jet aircraft.
Twin engined jet based on single engine piston plane.
Designed to be used as a ground attack aircraft, more were used as advanced trainers.
Prototype first flew in 1955 and first production plane in 1962.
Only 87 were built by country of origin, but another 90 were built under license by another country in a different continent.
40 were converted to upgraded model. Another 25 were re designated as ground attack model.
Egypt built plane under license.
Airframe designed by Willy Messerschmidt , airframe built in Spain and engines built in France.


That said, Jim, YOU'RE UP
On a side note, PD1, was my pleasure to run your quiz for you.

jimharley

Sorry about the spelling! I remember seeing a Saeta fly when I was a kid and remembering the noise...you don't see them around anymore, the L-39 and Iskra filled that gap in the jet market...even the Fouga has faded away.

Give me a couple hours and I will have a topic

Jim

jimharley

Ok! Have a go at this one...I'll start with 2 clues
1. I was designed in the late 30's
2. The design was an immediate success that evolved quickly to keep up with advancing technology

jimharley

Ok! Have a go at this one...I'll start with 2 clues
1. I was designed in the late 30's
2. The design was an immediate success that evolved quickly to keep up with advancing technology

I know those are vague but I wanted to check a couple facts before I posted more.
Clue 3
3. when production ended I had 56 distinct versions

Jim

Ernie P.

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Sir; it certainly sounds like the famed Spitfire. And when you add in the Seafire and the Griffon engined variants, well..... Thanks; Ernie P.


There were 24 marks of Spitfireand many sub-variants. These covered the Spitfire in development from the Merlin to Griffon engines, the high-speed photo-reconnaissancevariants and the different wing configurations. More Spitfire Mk Vs were builtthan any other type, with 6,487 built, followed by the 5,656 Mk IXs. Differentwings, featuring a variety of weapons, were fitted to most marks; the A wingused eight .303 in (7.7 mm) machine guns, the B wing had four.303 in (7.7 mm) machine guns and two 20 mm (.79 in) Hispano cannon, and the C, or universal, wing couldmount either four 20 mm (.79 in) cannon or two 20 mm(.79 in) and four .303 in (7.7 mm) machine guns. As the warprogressed, the C wing became more common. Another armament variation was the Ewing which housed two 20 mm (.79 in) cannon and two .50 in(12.7 mm) Browning machine guns. Although the Spitfirecontinued to improve in speed and armament, because of its limited fuelcapacity its range and endurance were also limited: it remained"short-legged" throughout its life except in the dedicatedphoto-reconnaissance role, when its guns were replaced by extra fuel tanks.

Supermarine developed a two-seatvariant known as the T Mk VIII to be used for training,but none were ordered, and only one example was ever constructed (identified asN32/G-AIDN by Supermarine). In the absence of an official two-seatervariant, a number of airframes were crudely converted in the field. Theseincluded a 4 Squadron SAAF Mk VB in North Africa, where a secondseat was fitted instead of the upper fuel tank in front of the cockpit,although it was not a dual-control aircraft and is thought to have been used asthe squadron "run-about". The only unofficial two-seat conversionsthat were fitted with dual-controls were a small number of Russian lend/leaseMk IX aircraft. These were referred to as Mk IX UTI and differed from theSupermarine proposals by using an inline "greenhouse" style doublecanopy rather than the raised "bubble" type of the T Mk VIII.

In the postwar era, the idea wasrevived by Supermarine and a number of two-seat Spitfires were built byconverting old Mk IX airframes with a second "raised" cockpitfeaturing a bubble canopy. Ten of these TR9 variants were thensold to the Indian Air Force along with six to the IrishAir Corps, three to the Royal Netherlands Air Force and onefor the Royal Egyptian Air Force. Currently several of thetrainers are known to exist, including both the T Mk VIII, a T Mk IX based inthe US, and the "Grace Spitfire" ML407, a veteran flownoperationally by 485(NZ) Squadron in 1944.

The Seafire, a name derived from sea,and Spitfire, was a naval version of the Spitfire specially adapted foroperation from aircraft carriers. Although the Spitfire was notdesigned for the rough-and-tumble of carrier-deck operations, it was consideredto be the best available fighter at the time. The basic Spitfire design didimpose some limitations on the use of the aircraft as a carrier-based fighter;poor visibility over the nose, for example, meant that pilots had to be trainedto land with their heads out of the cockpit and looking alongside the portcowling of their Seafire; also, like the Spitfire, the Seafire had a relativelynarrow undercarriage track, which meant that it was not ideally suited to deckoperations. Early marks of Seafire had relatively few modifications to thestandard Spitfire airframe; however cumulative front line experience meant thatmost of the later versions of the Seafire had strengthened airframes, foldingwings, arrestor hooks and other modifications, culminating in the purpose-builtSeafire F/FR Mk 47.[SUP][135][/SUP]
The Seafire II was able tooutperform the A6M5 Zero at low altitudes when the two types weretested against each other during wartime mock combat exercises.[SUP][136][/SUP]However, contemporary Allied carrier fighters such as the F6F Hellcat and F4UCorsair were considerably more robust and so more practicalfor carrier operations. Performance was greatly increased when later versionsof the Seafire were fitted with the Griffon engines. These were too late to seeservice in World War II.
[h=3]Griffon-engined variants[/h]The first Rolls Royce Griffon-engined Mk XII flew in August1942, and first flew operationally with 41 Squadron in April 1943. This mark could nudge400 mph (640 km/h) in level flight and climb to an altitude of33,000 ft (10,000 m) in under nine minutes.

As American fighters took overthe long-range escorting of USAAF daylight bombing raids, the Griffon-enginedSpitfires progressively took up the tactical air superiority role, and played amajor role in intercepting V-1flying bombs, while the Merlin-engined variants (mainly theMk IX and the Packard-engined Mk XVI) were adapted to the fighter-bomber role.Although the later Griffon-engined marks lost some of the favourable handlingcharacteristics of their Merlin-powered predecessors, they could stilloutmanoeuvre their main German foes and other, later American andBritish-designed fighters.

The final version of theSpitfire, the Mk 24, first flew at South Marston on 13 April 1946. On 20February 1948, almost twelve years from the prototype's first flight, the lastproduction Spitfire, VN496, left the production line. Spitfire Mk 24swere used by only one regular RAF unit, with 80 Squadron replacing their HawkerTempests with F Mk 24s in 1947. With these planes, 80Squadron continued its patrol and reconnaissance duties from Wunstorfin Germany as part of the occupation forces, until it relocated to KaiTak Airport, Hong Kong in July 1949. During the ChineseCivil War, 80 Squadron's main duty was to defend Hong Kongfrom perceived Communist threats.

Operation Firedog during the MalayanEmergency saw the Spitfire fly over 1,800 operational sortiesagainst the Malaysian Communists. The last operational sortie of an RAFSpitfire was flown on 1 April 1954, by PR Mk 19 Spitfire PS888 flyingfrom RAF Seletar, in Singapore.

jimharley

That's an epic post Ernie, unfortunately not it...but it alteast eliminates the Spit.

1. I was designed in the late 30's
2. The design was an immediate success that evolved quickly to keep up with advancing technology

I know those are vague but I wanted to check a couple facts before I posted more.
Clue 3
3. when production ended I had 56 distinct versions

Here is another...
4. My first incarnation had an open canopy

jim

jimharley

Watching football today so have at it!...here is another clue #5

1. I was designed in the late 30's
2. The design was an immediate success that evolved quickly to keep up with advancing technology

I know those are vague but I wanted to check a couple facts before I posted more.
Clue 3
3. when production ended I had 56 distinct versions

Here is another...
4. My first incarnation had an open canopy
5. My Fuel burn is around 35 gallons per hour

jimharley

Here is one more clue before I head to bed...


1. I was designed in the late 30's
2. The design was an immediate success that evolved quickly to keep up with advancing technology
3. when production ended I had 56 distinct versions
4. My first incarnation had an open canopy
5. My Fuel burn is around 35 gallons per hour
6. I shared parts with the early version another airplane

pd1

Grumman F4F ?

elmshoot

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[h=1]Seversky P-35 which morfed into the P-47[/h]

jimharley

Great guesses...but not them...the F3F and F4F do share quite a bit, as well as the P-35 and P-47


1. I was designed in the late 30's
2. The design was an immediate success that evolved quickly to keep up with advancing technology
3. when production ended I had 56 distinct versions
4. My first incarnation had an open canopy
5. My Fuel burn is around 35 gallons per hour
6. I shared parts with the early version another airplane
7. This airplane had 2 seats

jimharley

Here is another clue for the morning...

1. I was designed in the late 30's
2. The design was an immediate success that evolved quickly to keep up with advancing technology
3. when production ended I had 56 distinct versions
4. My first incarnation had an open canopy
5. My Fuel burn is around 35 gallons per hour
6. I shared parts with the early version another airplane
7. This airplane has 2 seats
8. This airplane completed 11,063 sorties in Korea

jimharley

Here is another...
1. I was designed in the late 30's
2. The design was an immediate success that evolved quickly to keep up with advancing technology
3. when production ended I had 56 distinct versions
4. My first incarnation had an open canopy
5. My Fuel burn is around 35 gallons per hour
6. I shared parts with the early version another airplane
7. This airplane has 2 seats
8. This airplane completed 11,063 sorties in Korea
9. One designer was well known in the 1930's racing circles