COX wrenches
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COX wrenches
I should be working, or at least taking a nap, but here I am playing on the web.
Right up there with the good things Cox has done for me, like making the TeeDee .049 for all those years, is the utility of their ubiquitous wrenches.
I have used them for years and have seen a couple of different styles. I like the ones with the full circle end for removing the glow head.
I have found, however, that the basic wrench is a bit small to really get some torque on your victim and have made handles for some of mine.
Using the antique tool at the top of the second photo for inspiration, I added wooden handles to the wrenches by laminating up pieces of wood. This allows me to more easily twist the firewall off when trying to remove that stubborn head from an engine.
The right photo is is unequal time for Norvel.
Right up there with the good things Cox has done for me, like making the TeeDee .049 for all those years, is the utility of their ubiquitous wrenches.
I have used them for years and have seen a couple of different styles. I like the ones with the full circle end for removing the glow head.
I have found, however, that the basic wrench is a bit small to really get some torque on your victim and have made handles for some of mine.
Using the antique tool at the top of the second photo for inspiration, I added wooden handles to the wrenches by laminating up pieces of wood. This allows me to more easily twist the firewall off when trying to remove that stubborn head from an engine.
The right photo is is unequal time for Norvel.
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RE: COX wrenches
ORIGINAL: hogflyer
I take it you're referring to the "Church Key"?
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Using the antique tool at the top of the second photo for inspiration.....
Using the antique tool at the top of the second photo for inspiration.....
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And that particular "Key" is larger than most too. I suspect one could open several cases of adult beverages without getting a wrist cramp.
Have you seen any other versions of the Cox .049 wrench?
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ORIGINAL: hogflyer
I take it you're refering to the "Church Key"?
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Using the antique tool at the top of the second photo for inspiration.....
Using the antique tool at the top of the second photo for inspiration.....
Hogflyer
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I wonder if the designer of the COX engine knew that someday there would be a world wide forum of men talking about his stamped sheetmetal wrenches? Kind of on the same subject, do you think ol' Abe Lincoln could have known that his likeness would be glued to the outboard wing tip of so many 100 mph C/L planes? The tools that LARRY displays look more like what you see if you take the museum tour at San Quentin, or maybe even eating utensils at Jeff Foxworthys' house?.
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RE: COX wrenches
Here's one I use that matches the flats on the top of the cylinder (5/8 in) and WILL NOT bend or wear out like the Cox stamped steel one. It's half of an old Snap-On "tappet" wrench that was very thin to start with then ground down just enough to let it slide in with the glow plug on. I have one just like it for the .020's too, just smaller.
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You fellas have some really impressive tools - for part of the job. But I'm curious about what kind of pliers you grip the cylinders with while turning the plug out? I favor classic slip-joints, but I have a modern, offset jawed, spring-opening, plastic gripped pair from Sears with really deep, agressive teeth that get into those fins pretty durn good.
Ah, CP once again you have brought nostalgic sniffles to mine nostrils with your restrospective on penny tip weight. And that was back when pennies were manly, made from real metal, and had some weight to them. You could solder things to them, beat them into useful shapes, why I can't speculate on how many I've drilled 1/8-inch holes through. Ah, good times, good times.
Ah, CP once again you have brought nostalgic sniffles to mine nostrils with your restrospective on penny tip weight. And that was back when pennies were manly, made from real metal, and had some weight to them. You could solder things to them, beat them into useful shapes, why I can't speculate on how many I've drilled 1/8-inch holes through. Ah, good times, good times.
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Ray, did you know that it now costs more to mint a penny than what it is worth?. I always glue the coins on with the presidents' face up.........out of respect. I think you might be talking to some guys here who would have you tarred and feathered for gripping some rare #001 liner with pliers [X(] Those teeth marks in the fins increase cooling area.
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RE: COX wrenches
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I think you might be talking to some guys here who would have you tarred and feathered for gripping some rare #001 liner with pliers [X(] Those teeth marks in the fins increase cooling area.
I think you might be talking to some guys here who would have you tarred and feathered for gripping some rare #001 liner with pliers [X(] Those teeth marks in the fins increase cooling area.
Or the guilty party could chuck the evidence up and turn the extra "cooling area" off to hide the crime. More than likely there was too much fin area there from the beginning.
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RE: COX wrenches
Gentlemen, gentlemen,
Do youse-all really think that I would abuse one of my beloved reedies with pliers? Pshaw, I was a joshin' with ya. Now I KNOW you know I would NEVER EVER desecrate my one of my TDs thusly. Certainly then I would treat my new favorites (reedies) with any less dignity.
Actually, when I saw the checkering (is that the correct term?) on one of those wrenches I remember my attempt at a quick version of something similar to increase the "grip" on a CL handle I had made for combat cuz those red plastic Hot Rocks could get slippery when sweaty. So, I clamped my handle and a coarse ******* file in my vice and squeezed pretty good. Yep I got nice, even dents in the wood. Alas, it was still slippery because the 'spikes' went IN instead of OUT (like real gun checkering). Looked pretty good though. I've sometimes wondered if I couldn't find another application for that technique. Any suggestions?
Do youse-all really think that I would abuse one of my beloved reedies with pliers? Pshaw, I was a joshin' with ya. Now I KNOW you know I would NEVER EVER desecrate my one of my TDs thusly. Certainly then I would treat my new favorites (reedies) with any less dignity.
Actually, when I saw the checkering (is that the correct term?) on one of those wrenches I remember my attempt at a quick version of something similar to increase the "grip" on a CL handle I had made for combat cuz those red plastic Hot Rocks could get slippery when sweaty. So, I clamped my handle and a coarse ******* file in my vice and squeezed pretty good. Yep I got nice, even dents in the wood. Alas, it was still slippery because the 'spikes' went IN instead of OUT (like real gun checkering). Looked pretty good though. I've sometimes wondered if I couldn't find another application for that technique. Any suggestions?
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You fellas have some really impressive tools - for part of the job. But I'm curious about what kind of pliers you grip the cylinders with while turning the plug out? I favor classic slip-joints, but I have a modern, offset jawed, spring-opening, plastic gripped pair from Sears with really deep, agressive teeth that get into those fins pretty durn good.
You fellas have some really impressive tools - for part of the job. But I'm curious about what kind of pliers you grip the cylinders with while turning the plug out? I favor classic slip-joints, but I have a modern, offset jawed, spring-opening, plastic gripped pair from Sears with really deep, agressive teeth that get into those fins pretty durn good.
Ah, CP once again you have brought nostalgic sniffles to mine nostrils with your restrospective on penny tip weight. And that was back when pennies were manly, made from real metal, and had some weight to them. You could solder things to them, beat them into useful shapes, why I can't speculate on how many I've drilled 1/8-inch holes through. Ah, good times, good times.
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GCB,
I'd quote your quote but its just easier for me to just say; yes, and long ago Cox engines came with two wrenches which is why some of you (us) older CL mouse racers have bunches of the durn things - enough to "enhance".
But your mention of rolled up Ambroid tubes cause at least two of my synapses to rub together. Back when the model mags were 35-cents (50 maybe) there was an article in one that showed someone using empty glue tube tops to simulate glow engines (and provide nose weight). The author showed a sample airframe of a current FF champ model (maybe Spacer or Ramrod) scaled way down (8 - 10 inch span maybe) and made with 1/32 and 1/16 sheet. Well, since we didn't have the means to purchase the full size plans (let alone build many of the actual 'real' models), my flying buddies and I made our own little tube-top 'powered' models using the plans from the magazines - at the same size they were presented on one page. I don't remember trying to trim them to fly like 'real' HLGs. We just tried to get them to fly in a straight line for as far as possible - thus did we establish a 'winner'. Ah, good times, good times.
I'd quote your quote but its just easier for me to just say; yes, and long ago Cox engines came with two wrenches which is why some of you (us) older CL mouse racers have bunches of the durn things - enough to "enhance".
But your mention of rolled up Ambroid tubes cause at least two of my synapses to rub together. Back when the model mags were 35-cents (50 maybe) there was an article in one that showed someone using empty glue tube tops to simulate glow engines (and provide nose weight). The author showed a sample airframe of a current FF champ model (maybe Spacer or Ramrod) scaled way down (8 - 10 inch span maybe) and made with 1/32 and 1/16 sheet. Well, since we didn't have the means to purchase the full size plans (let alone build many of the actual 'real' models), my flying buddies and I made our own little tube-top 'powered' models using the plans from the magazines - at the same size they were presented on one page. I don't remember trying to trim them to fly like 'real' HLGs. We just tried to get them to fly in a straight line for as far as possible - thus did we establish a 'winner'. Ah, good times, good times.
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RE: COX wrenches
I hold the cyl of a tough to remove glo- head w/ a pliers , BUT I use a thick piece of leather just the right size to go around the cyl and I never make a dent or anything on the fins. Try it - it works great and very cheap and easy ( just use a soft pc from an old shoe ).
The leather is always in my cox tool box.
Dale
The leather is always in my cox tool box.
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Another idea someone posted awhile back...well, a LONG while back, is to drill a cylinder size hole in a piece of wood (like pine), slice it, then use it in a vise to hold the cylinder.
Glue tube tops: Some glues used diamond shaped screw eyes, which became push rod guides on CL planes also.
My first NEW engine was a Cox Space Bug Junior and I can't honestly remember whether it came with one or two wrenches.
George
Glue tube tops: Some glues used diamond shaped screw eyes, which became push rod guides on CL planes also.
My first NEW engine was a Cox Space Bug Junior and I can't honestly remember whether it came with one or two wrenches.
George