Hunter, here's a simple test. Look inside and photo the interior of your Heng Longs. (and don't get me wrong, I have several HL's too, albeit all with Tamiya electronics). The attached photos will show what you get with Tamiya. Now post yours and lets see the difference. Mine are of course painted in side, but just with the suspension of the JT, which is the same in the King Tiger, Tiger 1, and Panther. look at it. Then be reminded that the hulls for these particular tanks are aluminium, the torsion bars are steel, the orifice for the suspension arm is cast metal, the idler rides on metal and is metal, and of course the drive sprocket is metal.

The suspensions you see are not stock, simply because as stated my tanks are very strong fighters and built to be so. Same with the transmissions. Stock will do well and hold up for years, but for all out 'I'm gonna clean yer clock' fighting, I use my own transmissions and after market suspensions, although the suspensions are a combination of stock and after market, for scale off road speed, handling, and power.

As for stating 'a tank is a tank', that's like saying 'a car is a car'. Using the same analogy, I don't know what you drive, but I'll be more than willing to swap you even up one of the local Lada's for whatever you drive. After all, it's the same, isn't it?

Anyhow, lets have a comfortable and polite discussion on this if you so desire. No name calling etc. It makes me loose sleep.