This guy just really doesn't get it. Some of the people who have made advances for "Your" belovedHL tanks are those very Tamiya Fools you like too call them. There is a difference and a big one. So you dont care about how it sounds, thats fine. You are missing out on a huge percentage of what battle was. There sure as heck was a lot of noise. And, Sir, I do take offense to your comment. I have both brands, I will continue to buy both brands. they each have their place. You are one of the ones pissed off at your self because you must have put YOURSELF in the position to not be able to afford a Tamiya. If you want to get down right nasty about it. which You Sir did.. If this guy came in here and asked which HL tank to buy we would have happily told him our opinions. Yes, there are those that want to jump wright on the Tamiya bandwagon, but they usually are HL converters who just cant get over their new found joy. We do not immediately imply that they should forego all brands other than Tamiya . It just doesn't happen that way city slicker.