Thanks, ********nut. Your link points me to a very helpful set of instructions.. but... quoting from that link...
The FLAT SPIN is a fairly complex maneuver and should be accomplished by the more advanced pilot. It can be a very nerve racking manuever to learn, so use caution when attempting one or practice with a decent flight simulator before trying it with your favorite plane. To accomplish this manuever, first enter a conventional spin
And, "most" of the posts so far say "start with a spin". Ok.. I guess maybe I will do what I always say should be done by "beginners". Define a "Spin".
I think I know what you mean, but give me more information.
CGr.