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Old 10-29-2010 | 09:44 AM
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What beginners need to get out of any thread about flying and setting up a radio is..............

That dual rate works well.
That exponential helps them fly more comfortably and they should start out on lower settings.
That aerobatic maneuvers are often easy to do but require more attention and learning.
Old 10-29-2010 | 09:52 AM
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Well, you are right. As DJ above your post stated, he never used Dual Rates either. I started with Expo a long time ago and really never felt the need for DR, so I never used it.

I'll play with it and see what works best for me. I do really like the ''soft'' feel of Expo with the capability to go full tilt without having to flip a switch. We will see, I guess.

Beginners ought to get some good information out of this thread, mainly because it deals with some of the issues that come up with DR and Expo, and, of course, throw. And the ''Pro's'' are posting some great ideas and thoughts on the subject. Good stuff!!!

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Yup,DJ must have been posting,while I was still typing lol. The main reason I tried dual rates on the Pulse,is because it gets rather squirrely on the ground handling. So at first I would just flip a switch to tame down the rudder for landing. But that can really catch you off guard if you forget to flip the switch and are expecting the reduced response! I would also mess up the other way,trying a knife-edge and realizing I didn't have full rates on. So you have to be careful when using switches that affect control surfaces.
Old 10-29-2010 | 10:05 AM
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Inverted flat spins with smoke on......How I miss my GP Cap 232 27%.
Old 10-29-2010 | 10:07 AM
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That must have been a sight to see!!!

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Old 10-29-2010 | 10:20 AM
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I can't see why the Venus II won't do a flat spin. Spins are part of the Patten routines.

Planes that get into a flat spin and out of it are usually anything with sufficient rudder authority, and can stall. Trainer s are poor at flat spins but sport planes are good and scale aerobats are great.
Tapered symmetrical wing, CG close to CP i.e neutral or whisker closeto nose heavy usually does it well.
Good throws on the control surfaces and a decently strong engine.
any plane with the Cg too far forward won't spin...
Planes with a longer tail span (such as the Venus and other pattern planes) have a harder time 'flattening out' - these planes are designed to do the exact opposite - track straight through aerobatic maneuvers. There are spins in pattern, but the planes maintain a nose-down attitude.

This is thread is a good idea. It would be cool to have a sticky in the beginner's forum detailing how to do basic (and maybe some not-so-basic) aerobatics.
Old 10-29-2010 | 12:20 PM
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My goodness, Joe, long time no see. Are you finished with school yet? How is the full size plane training doing? I got a spot-on-50 and dirty birdy for my pattern entry into pattern flying. Both powered by 91 4 strokes.
Old 10-29-2010 | 01:23 PM
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Every time I talk to ED I pester him to about making up his stunt cards in book form. At one point I had all of them and printed them up for my students as they started getting into stunt flying. Being a man of great words and knowledge {did I get anything on my nose just then} I feel Ed is much better at describing or explaining things then I am and by having these stunt cards close at hand the students can just read and practice stunts from the basic loop to the snapping 8. Ed mentioned going to full power when he goes into a spin. I have tried it, looks cool when it all goes well but I can pretty much always get the plane to spin if I cut power and induce the stall first. If I don't use power when pulling out and try to pull out like Ed mentioned my hart rates goes up too high as the ground starts approaching too quickly, at this point in my life I don't require a higher hart rate!!! PUT IT IN BOOK FORM ED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My goodness, Joe, long time no see. Are you finished with school yet? How is the full size plane training doing? I got a spot-on-50 and dirty birdy for my pattern entry into pattern flying. Both powered by 91 4 strokes.
Hi Gene!

Put off last semester of school for a co-op with GE Aviation. Worked out, got offered a full-time gig. Going back to finish in January.

Found a local place to get my sport pilot license for $2K, will either start this fall or when I get my taxes back.

Was working at GE in Rutland, VT over the summer, field near Rutland was horrible after noon so haven't been flying much. Nice to have a few really nice fields in Cincinnati area to choose from, been flying more lately.

Loving the Sebart Wind and electric power

Hopefully I'll get some more tips from this thread and learn how to really fly my Yak!
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It was always a beautiful sight CG. They were always so slow or I was always that nervous..................LOL
Old 10-29-2010 | 08:36 PM
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Nervous???? ha.. yeah, I know what that means. As I said earlier, I spend the first two tanks of the day just wringing out the butterflys... ha..

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