I have had 3 mid airs where I lost my airplanes, 1 was a brand new CAP-21 on it's maiden!!!! It happens to me more than anyone I ever met and it is just by chance really. People ask, who's fault was it? are you angry at the guy? The answer is nobodies fault really and I am frustrated but I cant get angry about it... the only way to 100% avoid it is not to fly I guess. Gene I know you worked your butt off and put alot of blood and sweat into that airplane. You will just have to build another! It keeps you out of trouble right? It was a damned fine airplane and nothing flies like a Kaos!!!! I am glad RCU is back online... I wonder WTH it was this time? did you keep the little bird picture on the rudder?