Arch, I'm not certain but, I think the issues that namancheno is suffering with will probably take more than wing adjuster's to correct. I have no way to verify or confirm his findings without jigging and lasering his particular fuse/wing/stab combinations. It does seem odd that both of his planes have similiar problems. +1 degree of incidence in the wings seems excessive, but again, without actually examining his planes and/or observing them in flight, I have no way of knowing. You are correct, none of these planes are perfect nor, should we expect them to be but, how much can a pair of wing adjuster's add to the final price of these Sebart kits? Perhaps $12-$20? I feel the financial cost is significantly less than the human frustration brought on by the manufacturer's effort to prduce a "cheap/competitive" kit! BTW, on a positive note, I recieved one of Andrew Jesky's Osiris kits last week from Ben at 3D Hobby Shop and am very impressed with the fit & finish and overall quality. Congratulations to all who were involved in bringing this kit to fruition. Regards___Everette