Lets say I was off by 0.2 lbs...

I bet the Wild Beat has a bunch more squares than either a Tipo or a P8. Let's have a look..., right, 1077 sq in vs 700 to 750 tops. I'd be surprised if the P8 has a larger wing than the Tipo 720.

That's a difference of about 25%. If one considers that your average 60 size pattern ship can weigh on the order of 130 oz while the WB weighs 160 oz all up, it is clear that the WB will be a much lighter loaded model.

Wing Loading Wild Beat: 160/7.48 = 21.4 oz/sq ft

Average classic pattern model: 130/5.21 = 24.95 oz/sq ft

That classic is a tad over 8 lbs and has 750 squares.

Interesting how these much larger 120 class models are lighter on the wing. The Wild Beat's you guys are building also have 2.33 times more engine displacement! (OS 140 RX's). The current F3A models must be similar or even lower.

David.