Guys these planes are incredible!! The phoenix 8 is a great plane I'm only 22 but I love this era in pattern we actually have 4 of the phoenix 8s! I guess it helps my father worked at aero composites the original producer of the 8! It's an amazing flying plane! If you have any questions my father knows this plane like the back of his hand and would answer any question or problem you have! Keep up the fantastic work!!!