Well, look's like it's the end of this thread. Strange how the kit WACO YMF can have over 500 replys, The Pica/Cox ARF somewhat less and the GP version only about 25. Have we lost intrest in this one already ?. This [ I believe ] is truly one of the better ARF's for us Bi-Winger's. ACF, SkyPi, Skill, Where you guys at ?. My excuse for not posting more is that we are having quite a bit of very high winds here in N. Utah. Very strange this year and just too risky to fly for now. Hope to hear from you guys. Seeya for now, MM