Matt, Why do you feel the need to repeat your above statement in this thread? No, I did not "miss the point"! What is clear to me is that there is ambiquity in the wording of some of these rules and this alone leads to self interpretation. All you have to do is go back and read the difference of opinions expressed to what I thought was a very simple question and you will realize the same. Keep in mind, I was seeking clarification and asked the question because I did not have a current AMA rule book in front of me. What is evident is that RC Ken deleted my original question in his efforts to clean up this thread. Everette