as i mentioned i emailed traxxas about my problems after a week or 2 of not getting a reply i started countering peoples "oh this is such a awesome boat"  with the oh really's why did this happen to mine and was banned  then i found here and ose and was happy i wasnt the only one with the same problems i just wish i read forums before buying mine . i cant say nothing about my hull its all still in 1 piece BUT ...  if you do flip it 9 ties out of 10 the front lip pulls out and it rotates a few times i had it upside down perfectly and it floated well but most of the time all u see is 3 or 4 inches  floating in the water like a bobber .  it can be fixed so this doesnt happen but guess what  thats another minor overlook that they made.  you asked owners a question well your getting the truths.  btw i own 2 summits i agree they are sweet as all get out but imho traxxas needs to go back to the drawing board and testing before lying to their customers and then screwing them over .