ORIGINAL: mjfrederick

Ok, I'm at the field, just flew through the proposed advanced pattern. My first thought was: this is pretty boring. My next thought was: the 2 loops can't be flown as described. The description of the maneuver makes the rolls not integrated into the loop. The only way I can keep the rolls at the speed I want them is to integrate them into the loop. I did that, and it looked ok for my first try, but it didn't meet the description. So then I flew it doing the rolls as fast as I could to try and meet the description. It still can't be done as described because you get a flat spot at the top, and the loops get out of round. Bottom line, that maneuver needs to go.