I agree with Joe and Arch. We are not advocating adding a class just modifying what we have. I always hated the name Intermediate as a class name. Get rid of the name intermediate and change it back to what it was Sportsman. I never liked the class named novice either. I advocate we change the name novice or what is now sportman to Club Class. When I here Joe call it club class, I think AMA club class. It has an AMA ring to it in my ears and I think it is good for the sport. No turnaround in Club Class either. If you find it not challenging then one can move up in class. To many beginners it is challenging and it is also a level playing field at the club level that all can understand and participate in. If we do this there will be a unity between AMA and NSRCA that will promote growth in our sport. I firmly believe this.

Just My $.2
Evan

Also if you all don't like the 2 loops with 1/2 rolls in the proposed Advanced pattern then change the manuever to a triangle with 2 half rolls in opposite directions on top or 2 half rolls on top. I am just happy we get a new pattern sequence to fly! You guys are doing a great job btw!