ORIGINAL: TonyF
And I have to say that I have never seen a survey taken either here or on any other internet forum that would hold any water as to providing accurate results.
Amen.
OK, in response to the difference between an avalanche, and the 2 loop w/ 1/2 rolls question: the difference is in the description. That's why I'm harping on it. The avalanche description does not state that you perform exactly 1/2 loop before you perform the snap, and then exactly 1/2 loop after the snap. The avalanche description states "... at the top [the model] executes a complete snap roll..." This description allows that the snap only be centered at the top. You actually have to start the snap immediately before hitting the apex of the loop, and you go through the apex during the snap, coming out of the snap on the backside of the loop. It is, in fact, integrated as Brian Clemmons pointed out. The description of the proposed maneuver says you fly EXACTLY 1/2 loop, perform 1/2 roll, perform EXACTLY 1 outside loop, 1/2 roll, and EXACTLY 1/2 loop.
Oh, and Brian C, must you always add an "s" to the end of my name?