I'm seeing setup.exe in the root of the DVD, and tried running it as the administrator (and not as the administrator as well)like Opjosie suggested. At that point the DVD drive spins for a minute or so, then it goes quiet. I've tried waiting it out. 10-15 mins or so, but nothing. The only thing that really happens beyond that is that a Realflight folder appears on my C drive, but nothing is loaded. I've brought the laptop and DVD to the office. We've got a kid out of college that's a "gamer". I'll give him a crack at it today.... Am I that old ??? Remember IBM cards ??? At least I never used a slide rule.... :-/