Thanks larry it will have a big float and power will be an OS 95AX. The Ax's have proven to me to be superior with their amazing low throttling capability with my last long water flight last November here is a link, Much better than the four strokes I used to use on my overland long flights. Here is a link to the last long water flight:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11..._1/key_/tm.htm

Chuckaluck If that Frontier clone is out of stock you may give some serious thought to the Sig Senior Kaydet ARF as they are back in business with them and the pricing between those two are competive.

Other thing that makes the dumpy trainer once agine sexy are night flying and heck even used one of mine for a paint ball fund raiser for the club and took over 300 rounds before it was unflyable and reqired repairs and a complete recover.

John[8D]