I didn't mean to use an inappropriate airplane. We have had people show up and want to learn on a P51. Now that is inappropriate for sure. I meant more like an LT40 or some of the other 60-65in. trainers. I have had students who thought they were trained(at least straight and level to a landing), and then when I showed them what you could do in the way of basic aerobatics, they see that there is more to a trainer than they thought. That being said, Kadett pylon racing sounds like a blast. Anyway we don't get enough new glow flyers to matter very much either way. Most of them have some sort of little foamie Cub or something and learn on that. Then move on to larger electrics. Call me old fashioned, but I want to hear a motor running.