Thanks Pete for telling it like it is. Just like we don't like "real" pilots telling us how easy it would be to fly RC planes, we wouldn't exactly know how to fly full scale planes. The Thunderbirds have the Pratt 220's that have been responsible for NUMEROUS lost aircraft within the last year ( I believe 6 and counting) at Luke AFB and I'm sure you'll see the same in this case. There have been many engine stalls with these motors of varying degrees of severity and obviously this is the worse. The Thunderbird 220's are even beefed up on the engine case to take the rigors of a show year but day after day of max climbs will still take their toll. As everyone has noticed he didnt put it on the runway, he didnt put it in the crowd, and HE did try to direct the plane as clear as possible. Tom Antlfinger I believe is right as he may have thought it was control failure as Im sure he wasnt watching his engine instruments, which are far right under the eyebrow panel, while he NEEDS to ensure his altitude during the maneuver (head up watching altitude and attitude on the HUD). They do this maneuver EVERYTIME they leave homestation to practice over Indian Springs and many times Ive thought it would seem if he lost power this would happen, unfortunately it did. Just technology biting us again.