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Default call for help to the 'electronics' on this board for a Wirbelwind project

<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Hi chaps, i need help from the &lsquo;electronically&rsquo; talented people in this board<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">I&rsquo;m immersed in a new project, a Wirbelwind based in an old HL PzIV chassis. I want to hold the costs to a minimum, and I would like to use the HL electronics, the HL remote and a beier sound card for the sounds. I already own them, so I do not have to expend money in this area. <o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">The alternative could be the future Taipan board, or the RC2HL solution, but the shipping costs from OZ to Spain are &lsquo;devastating&rsquo;&hellip;<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Without taking into account the use of recoiling, if possible at all, I would like to know what you think about my idea, if it&rsquo;s feasible or do you have any other way to do it&hellip; so:<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">
- imagine a turret less HL PzIV, with the Wirbelwind one installed and with the flakvierling inside<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">- imagine that no servos would be used for elevation of the guns or rotating the turret, only engines.<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">- the turret rotation would be the same as any other HL<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">The standard HL &lsquo;8 wires&rsquo; group of cables going from the RX18 to the upper hull is distributed in this way:<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">pin 1 (<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">black</span>)<span class="apple-converted-space"></span></span>-<span class="apple-converted-space">negative turret rotation (3.8V - 4.0V)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">
<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">pin 2 (</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">red<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">)<span class="apple-converted-space"></span></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">+<span class="apple-converted-space">positive turret rotation</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">

<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">pin 3 (<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">blue</span>)<span class="apple-converted-space"></span>-<span class="apple-converted-space">negative motor gun fire recoil airsoft (4V)</span></span>
<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">pin 4 (<span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">yellow</span>)<span class="apple-converted-space"></span>-<span class="apple-converted-space">negative motor gun elevation (7.2V)</span></span>
<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">pin 5 (</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(136, 0, 0); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">brown</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">)<span class="apple-converted-space"></span></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">+<span class="apple-converted-space">positive common to elevation and gun engines</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">

<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">pin 6 (</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 187, 0); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">green<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">)<span class="apple-converted-space"></span></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">+<span class="apple-converted-space">positive common to light and MG shooting</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">
<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">pin 7 (white) - negative light
<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">pin 8 (<span style="color: rgb(255, 153, 0);">orange</span>)<span class="apple-converted-space"></span>-<span class="apple-converted-space">negative MG</span> shooting<o></o></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">so then:<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">- there would be no tank gun or recoil or fire system, then the pin 3 (blue) would be free<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">- it would be possible to use the pins 6 and 8 for MG shooting to fire the flakvierling LEDs with the K button<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">- on the remote, stick down controls the tank gun elevation, but on a cyclic way, the engine always runs in the same direction (no polarity reverse)<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">- on the remote, stick up controls the tank gun firing</span><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Well, have I said any incorrect?<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Now, the possible solution to have elevation and depression of the flakvierling , up or down, without the cyclic thing, and is here where I need your thoughts and advice!<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Could be possible, to use the &lsquo;liberated&rsquo; pin 3 (blue) (remember, no tank gun to be fired) to make the elevation engine to turn in the opposite way? <o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">With some electronic component? A polarity inverter? A relay? An H bridge?...?<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">If this i just said could be doable, then the guns could be fired with the remote&rsquo;s K button, the remote&rsquo;s sticks down and up to control the flak elevation&hellip;<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">What do you think? Do you have any other idea to achieve what I want?<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Best regards and thank you very much!<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span lang="EN-US" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">


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