</p>

Silent-AV8R: It is not a question of me <span style="font-size: small">"thinking"</span> that this is the case. And it is not at all about "HobbyKing" stuff -it just happens that they sell the Turnigy SK3 motors which are made bythe SunRay Tech factory.
No, the issue is MUCHMUCH wider than HobbyKing, or Hacker or others.
It is aboutone single factory making the same exact motors for morethan 25 different brand names. We do know, <u><span style="font-size: small">without any doubt whatsoever</span></u>, that Hacker, Hyperion-Z, OK Hobby Infinite and Turnigy SK3 motors are all made together at the Sunray Technology factory in Shenzhen, China.</p>

-And not only are these motor brands made at this Sunray factory. Many others are also made at this factory, including: Extreme Flight Torque, Shulman Aviation FURY, Gens Ace, Common-Sense-RC, LiPolice, Pelikan Foxy, Viper VA, Apache, Pilotage Nova-Line, MegaPower Taurus, Lipotech, Sonic Electric, BMI Models "Spitz" motors, Precision Aerobatics Thrust motors, Boost motors (from Pichler -sold by Robotbirds in UK), JP E-Pro motors; ELE motors (now discontinued) -there are probably more than this, we just don't know about them yet ..
-That is why all these motors have basically identical specs and completely identical performance
-<span style="font-size: small">Hacker motors are just the same as all the rest</span> -they are totally IDENTICAL internally and in performance -and <span style="font-size: medium">there is no earthly reason at all why we should pay 4 or 5 times as much for a Hacker</span> or E-F Torque motor ..</p>

ALSO: We know that O.S. motors, and Futaba motors, are also made at this Sunray Tech factory.</p>

In addition to this, we now know that Sunray also make the ESC's for most of the same brands that they make brushless motors for. -This a relatively new finding.
see: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11452486 post #43 onwards.</p>

We know for certain that Sunray make the following ESC's: Hacker X-Pro; Hyperion Titan; Extreme Flight Airboss; Common-Sense-RC; Sonic Electric; Gens Ace; OK Hobby Infinite; Shulman Aviation FURY ESC's; Apache; LiPolice; Pilotage Nova-Line; BMI Spitz standard ESC's; BMI Spitz data log ESC's; HDX Brushless 35A ESC; JP E-PRO ESC's; and also: ELE-RC "Advance" ESC's (now discontinued);

In addition, Sunray Tech also make Turnigy dlux ESC's., and Turnigy Trust ESC's.
It is also very likely indeed that Sunray make Jeti ADVANCE and Jeti SPIN ESC's; see http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11463027
They may also make Precision Aerobatics Quantum ESC's (they DO make PA Thrust motors ...)</p>

See: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11465548
(and also perhaps: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11465908 )</p>