Yes I will check into it further and I do appreciate the responses. Like I said I will not be racing so I'm not looking for a race spec buggy. Honestly the Losi 810 would be perfect but unfortunately besides the fact it's been discontinued, I'm not a fan of its smaller size. I also understand everything can break, I just want something that will shrug off bad landings and cart wheels without instantly breaking something. As I said earlier, my friends Vorza is a battle tank which is what originally led me to the d8s. Just seems its not fast enough.