I love the looks of the older pattern planes too. I don't like the looks much of the new pattern planes with HUGE profiles that are predominantly electric. However, if you can get by the looks, these new planes fly slow, as slow as your trainer types if you like. The looks are growing on me slowly as one of the nicest guys at my field now, has only had these new gen pattern planes, and he flies a lot so I see them often, haha.