Good thread. As usual I'm placing my money on John Buckners advice. I am very surprised that noone so far has explained/complained about the time consumeing assembly/disassembly time spent on a bipe out at the field. Bill H if you can dig out of the snowbanks up there come on out to Az & we'll get you on a 3D buddy box. Never know, it may just "relight your fire". Well done helping out the new bipe guy guys.