I wouldn't spend a lot of energy debating a few posters in the AMA Discussions Forum. All one needs to do is to review the threads going all the way back through 10 years. You will see the same folks hijack a thread and create drama with irrelevant useless fodder.

Just watch who takes a nibble from this bait (post). Then you will know who I'm speaking about or just make up your own mind reviewing the last 10 years of posts in the AMA Discussion Forum... I quit posting here many years ago, because it was a useless forum. Thought things may have changed, but after further review... Nahhh... same-o-same-o

With that said, Hossfly's post may very well be the norm at many clubs around the USA. What we don't see is that clubs are as diverse as any subculture. Some are good and some not so good. I presume that for as many clubs that are like Hossfly suggests, there are an equal amount that are much better. My club is one of the good ones. I have been around this country and have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly with clubs... No reason to single any of them out. The club in Evansville, IN is by far one of the best in the country.

Food for thought... "Perception is reality, truth be damned". Meaning how someone perceives things to be is their truth or reality. However, it doesn't mean it applies to the universe. It's all relative as they say...

My .02 worth... As my favorite comedian always says, "It is only my opinion, I could be wrong"

I'm glad to see the original poster of this thread was able to resolve the Club's issue at hand. That is what's important on this thread

LD24