Joe

Do you have the intestinal fortitude to ask Dave Brown whose money he went to Ireland on? I don’t think you do. Because you were so interested, I did ask him in a phone call. The information was also posted on the net. I will put a copy of that at the end of my reply, so that you do not have to take my version at face value.

You have no idea of how the AMA works. That is your fault as well as the fault of the AMA. And yes, it is their fault for not finding a way to let you have information you apparently want by spoon feeding you. I am not going to address your carping this time, other than to tell you where the information is. GO GET IT YOURSELF. You seem to fancy yourself as some kind of crusader. Find out how the system works. I asked you a month ago if you knew who was on the Safety Committee and you said you did not. Do you now? If you are going to gripe, doing it on RCU is a waste.

Quit just looking at the picutures in MA. At least one other member of RCU found something of interest and started a thread here about it. The loss in the stock market of $400,000. I guess you view that as positive propaganda. Your view of positive propagada and mine appear to be widely seperated.

Go to the AMA web site. Download the rule book. Read everything there that has to do with the rules making process. Find out what a SIG is and how it interfaces with the Safety Committee. Find out how the Safety Committee interfaces with the EC. If you don’t want the information, then do us all a favor and SHUT UP. It’s there, it is ALL there. This is not the first time I have pointed you to the site.

JR

The following was posted on the D2 list on SEPTEMBER 10:

Morning Horrace,
Frankly, I couldn't agree more with your comments. For the benefit of those that may not be aware, because it coincided with the Brown's planned vacation to Ireland, not one cent of the cost of Dave's being a part of this historical event was absorbed by the AMA. It's sad to see some try to tarnish such a significant accomplishment by Maynard and his team to further whatever their own agenda might be. And I guarantee you that if someone handed Dave a check to cover the cost of his entire trip there, he'd hand it right back. I've seen him do it before! He puts most of the rest of us to shame with the amount he contributes out of his own pocket in the course of doing his job.
Dave

Dave Mathewson
AMA Vice President, District 2
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315.635.1039 (Fax)

-----Original Message-----
From: AMA District 2 Discussion [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Reference an RCU thread attacking DB and the Atlantic Flight.

I posted this on the new RCU. Posting is finally working in spite of my firewall system



Now I will say that regardless of our politics, Dave Brown is the elected President of the Academy of Model Aeronautics and is the main man to represent the sport of model aviation on the national and international levels.

DB is a volunteer and he spends many days working for model aviation (Yes I do argue that point but that is a personality thing).

A very talented person, Maynard Hill, veteran of many years in Applied Physics at John Hopkins Univ., has accomplished a significant FIRST for the good ol' USA. It would be a slap in the face to both DB and MH, if the AMA President was NOT there to finish the event.

This is great publicity for aeromodeling and for the USA.

Personally, I am ashamed for any member of the aeromodeling community, and especially AMA members, that would accept less than DB being fully reimbursed by the corporation to include First Class all the way.

Come on beggars, get a life. Yes, I am a candidate for AMA office, and I will volunteer the many hours such office requires, plus a significant amount of un-reimbursed expense. However everything has its limit.

What the _ell are YOU doing?

Horrace D. Cain
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"I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion."
— THOMAS JEFFERSON








Horrace D. Cain
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion."
— THOMAS JEFFERSON