Originally Posted by Top_Gunn

Sure. But this is the beginners forum, and the OP was talking about how to make ordinary turns with a trainer, having gotten the impression from a ridiculous YouTube video that he was supposed to turn without banking much so as not to lose altitude. How we got from that to aerobatics, I don't know.When you're knife edged, the rudder functions much as the elevator normally does, and vice versa. But that information isn't really of much use to the OP, I suspect.