Harry, you are missing the point. Models are piloted differently because they are piloted from the ground. If you are a competition pilot such as myself you want to keep the airplanes track parallel to the runway. Using rudder to do this will not result in a downgrade from the judges. Leaning the wings into the wind will result in a downgrade. So now I suppose the entire IMAC judging guide is wrong? Again. we are talking MODELS with less wing loading, more power, higher G loads in operation. Not everything full scale can me laterally applied to our models and vice versa. Please sir DO NOT tell me I am piloting my MODELS wrong, I have a wall full of trophies that would imply I am not.