Harry, then I suggest you actually try what you are suggesting here. IMO you two guys are still talking theory and have not actually flown an R/C model with the goal of keeping a constant depth. Perhaps we should agree to disagree until one of you guys actually gives it a try with someone standing behind you letting you know if you are drifting or not and if your wings are being kept level. Trust me it would be a big eye opener. I personally find it hard to believe that you guys want to argue this point when it's obvious that neither on of you guys have pattern or IMAC experience. Personally I would not think about giving full scale pilots advise on piloting their aircraft simply because I am not a full scale pilot and am not qualified to do so. IMO you two trying to convince me that I am flying my models incorrectly is the same, you just don't have that level of experience. As I said gentlemen, agree to dis agree. At this point all 3 of us are just repeating ourselves.