WOW, Robert you put this thread back in the top 10.

"You want them to live in your world, they don't want to. But you should see what they do with Quadcopters, thats their world and they are good at it, building and flying. "

No I don't want them to live in my world, I want them to be open to experiencing other worlds. IMO we are losing as a nation when we don't value the skilled tradesman anymore and we become a nation of consumers rather thant producers. Building models as a kid helped develop the skills I used as a carpenter for 20 yrs as well as an helicopter crew chief in the Army. One of the best things my dad did for his kids was bring home a pile of scrap wood from his cabinet maker friend, and some nails and screws from the hardware store and encourage us to use our imagination. I wouldn't call opening a box slapping in a batttery and zooming around the sky exactly building and flying. I love my arfs and all the new additions to our hobby, but there is something infinitetly more satisfying about solving problems and creating something of worth and standing back and saying "I made that". I think they used to call it hard work and pride