You guys just don't get it do you? If the airplane is drifting with the wind then you must counter this action somehow. Applying a LITTLE rudder to the direction of the wind will counteract this drift. Someone used the example of the sailplane with a string with the string being strait back. Well DUHHHH that is because the sailplane is drifting with the wind. Another good example is a hot air balloon, from the perspective of a person in the basket it's dead calm. As far as a top leavel pattern pilot flying inside wing down, I'm sure he was down graded for this. If I was sitting in the judges chair ( and I have judged hundreds of IMAC unlimited rounds ) I would have downgraded him. To imply that it was intentional is just ignorance. I'm with Sensi, enough with the talk, it's time for you guys to show us something other then what you read in a full scale book that was published decades ago or what your full scale instructors taught you decades ago. You all may want to check where you are while you are at it, last time I looked this is RCU as in remote control. If you want to debate FULL SCALE piloting techniques you may want to go to that forum to do so.