Thanks Panther! I will keep that in mind when placing my order. Was very glad to find this forum, and look forward to getting more help in my future projects. Like I said, I'm a newbie, but I got a handful of tanks already. All were rtr's from Taigen, but im very excited about HL coming out with the m1 and challenger later this year. Im going to make those my first major overhaul projects. But thanks again for your input. Now I can get started with my first minor upgrades.