Al go back and read all my posts, not once had I suggested that he make turns with crossed controls. Nor have I said anything about flat turns in pattern in fact if you knew what you were talking about you would realiz that a pattern sequence has no" turns " at all. I simply stated to the OP how it was that I dealt with a cross wind. Then I got the barrage of " Thats not how we do it in full scale " Guess what guys, we aren't flying full scale. If you can't make the distinction then IMO you will only reach a certain level of skill as an R/C pilot. If your OK with that then who am I to judge? In the end this hobby should be about having fun.