I understand this is a waste of time. I have several times attempted to explain my point of veiw. I have explained that the differences are wing and power loadings. I have explained that because models are flown in a strait line for only a few seconds at a time and not hours. I can continue that models fly close to the ground with pilots on the ground that can feel which was and how fast the wind is blowing. The wind at 30,000 feet is certainly going to be different. The effects of wind on an airplane traveling at 400 mph as opposed to a model traveling at 80 mph is going to be different. I could go on more but you guys have been closed minded for 9 pages I don't see it changing now.

bjr, having a wall full,of trophies from competing at the level I have DOES mean that I am correct as it applies to MODELS. If any of you guys had any success as a competition r/c pilot you would have an understanding that to rise to flying IMAC unlimited is not an easy task and one that requires attention to detail in airplane set up and trimming as well as lots of practice. If I was not flying my aircraft correctly then I would not have made it to that level. Think about it for a minute, in the US there are less then 200 IMAC unlimited pilots.

obviously I do not have an aeronautical education and there are some things I do in designing, building and piloting my airplanes that I am not able to fully explain. Should that mean that all these things that I do based on EXPERIENCE don't work simply because I am not able to fully explain why they work? Do I need to know every detail how an automatic transmission works in order to instruct someone how to drive?

Bottom line is fly your airplanes the way you want, I really don't care but DO NOT tell me I have been flying mine wrong, I have litterally thousands of scored flights that say otherwise, that is unless you have something to show me where you have been at least as successful as a competitive R/C pilot.