LOL... l understand! I have a time with both. When l was in Hot Springs Arkansas, we had 400 arks, to fly on. Had bad wends coming for five dafrent was. (TREE LINES, ROADS, ETC) Now l live in Little Rock Ark, and fly off the side of a landfill. Where in a bowl of around ten arks, saw grass and pine trees that is open on the landfill side and if it's not the wind or the smell or the trees, it's a hole on one of the runway that sucks your plane into the grown! AKA (WENDSHERE) you have to slip it in or just fly 3D. 3D is a lot of fun, BUT! That kills planes too! LOL......... Have Fun!...... :-)