I found both the v911 and the v912 to be great fun to fly out of the box and even fun to work on. I'm now asking questions myself to find new things to do to make Franken Copter out of my first v912 and leave the new one alone to always be able to go back to the original to see how far I can push a copter build. Short of going brushless motors which can cost more than the heli cost to begin with. But both of these are good choices and can take several hard crashes before they may need repair.