Jester you are absolutely right.It does take a commitment and a "love"of the hobby.Some people do try it once and if they don't get the "hang of it" they give up instead of keep trying and saying it's not for me.Then they will never know if it is.I've been giving a lot of thought of the idea of the whole club thing,and I think if I talk enough people i could possibly get something started.I would like to see this grow in my area because there are some guy I think would like to be in this sort of thing