Thanks for the info, good help... Not real worried about to heavy just to light, my F5D airframes with a 12mm thick wing at root (about 230 sq in) bare airframe weighs about 10 ounces and 2.2 lbs when finished ready to fly, good for 220mph and over 40 gs my Q40 can be built so you need to add about 6 ounces if you shoot for light. (3.5 lbs for a 400 sq in wing plane ready to fly) I could see one of these at that size being 5 to 5.5 lbs which would really help in turns, it takes a lot of lift/drag to turn a heavy plane 180 degrees.... hmmm, just thinking

rules are pretty wide open with good limit on time to keep dumb arses like me in check, may not be this year but we will see, I think I could build something that richard could really break out with.... under 1 minute??? has that been done yet.. its about 600 feet between poles isnt it?

thanks
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