Well I bought a traxxas Spartan ,I kinda wanted a cat but once those are upside down your done ,the new roll over tech on the V hulls is cool but the traxxas dosent have it ,the main reason I chose this one is that the local hobby shop can help me with the learning curve ,I'll keep you posted if these are quality boats or not ,most of their cars and trucks have not been up to par with the top brands but I had to pull the trigger so here goes ,