Agree with the guys above. Years ago we did maneuvers like this with planes that were not up to what we have today. Even 20 years ago, planes were noticeably faster, but we still managed to do this stuff, even with turnarouns. Go back and look at Novice and Sportsman from 1996. No reason those patterns ever need to change. If you are bored in those classes, move up. We keep dumbing down the lower classes, even as equipment is getting better daily. 3 rolls can be done with just aileron and elevator. There is no reason to use rudder on this maneuver. I would like to see other maneuvers come back, such as the outside loop that includes the half roll to inverted and then back out again, and even straight inverted flight.

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