Ah yes I think you're right now that I look at it again. The middle one on the torque side looks almost identical to the stock one on the Mad Force. The Mad Force has a very long header though, much longer than the ones pictured. Here's one of the go to pipes many guys recommend for torque in .21 and up engines. Looks very similar to stock, but with a 1 piece design and a shorter header. I've also heard the Dynamite 086 is a killer torque pipe too and a bit cheaper than the Jammin is.