I've always heard Nova Rossi pipes are awesome. But I've always been a little too cheap to try one out, same with the Jammin ones. Dynamite and THS have done well in my trucks over the years for bang for the buck set ups. Good info here, I'm learning quite a lot! It makes sense now why that MIP pipe I have made my old Maxx feel so much different wide out than the Traxxas tuned one did. With the Mad Force being a fairly light truck for it's size, a mid range pipe would probably do wonders in it. Mine flips onto it's lid often engough as it is now, I can only imagine what what it would do with a Nova Rossi torque set up!