Thanks Lou. Dave , i have been on your site, lots of info for sure. I have been R/C since 78' but only recently came inot some c/l stuff. One thing nice is that there is still an active c/l club in my area and i have already joined and will be getting to fly a Goldberg Shoestring and also refurb a Cosmic Wind. I also have a plane that was designed right here in Clarksville IN named the Commander. It has a full fuse, stunt with a ST 46. The local club also sponsors a class at the NATS every year also. One thing also, i also knew Lew McFarland who lived in Lexington. Met him through flying sailplanes at contest.