John I think that it goes beyond them trying to sell more planes. PLProd doesn't need to promote sales they can't fill all the requests they have now. I think that it's more them having some fun. Yes this is supposed to be family oriented but I don't feel that this is that bad. Have you watched TV lately? The magazines in the old days always had a girl in a bikini in front of a plane. Again I started the thread because I thought it was funny. I'm not really making a statement I just thought it was ok to share this discovery with everyone. You have to admit this isn't your ordinary everyday pattern website. For the record I don't fly PLProd planes but if I could afford one I would in a heartbeat. They have fantastic looking and flying stuff. Mike