Smack is right - I fly with him in Reno and his Extra flies light, and responsive with authority. The DA150 pull it around with ease...not to mention we're at 5000'+ altitude.

I'm building a Carden 40% Extra for Smack - and of course when you spend some 6 month building one plane with all the good parts, good glue, and hours of sandind - there is no way anyone could compare that to an ARF.

Of course it's all depend on who's doing the building, and how it was built...but I have to say that the J'tec is pretty awsome...fly nice, look nice...well until Smack managed to scraped about 1/4" off of the rudder while inverted pass over the runway...

You can argue all you want about kit vs. arf...but it'll come down to how it was built, and who's doing the flying.