Jerry, gotta watch what the actual dimensions are. Don't just look at the scale, these clowns in china have no clue. The "1/12 and 1/10" scale from cross aren't far off from say a globe liner or king hauler. Have to remember you can do a lot of eye fooling with tire/wheel size and body height both scaling up and down. Cross is more 1/12 to 1/14 if you look at wheel base and such.