Thanks fellows, all good ideas. I guess I could just gang up on the Abrams with my T90, and my ZTZ99, but I don't think they would stand much of a chance. I have read a couple of reports that state the T14(can I call it that?)is a very good weapons system, even better than our Abrams. What do we have in the works for replacing the Abrams, or are tanks going to be obsolete?