Amateurs. Melik and Manya. Aren't they cute little collies? 2.4 meters, tip of nose to tip of tail. Almost the last of old style collies, not the little divan pillows so popular today. Melik's son Aleksandr is bigger than he is, or I should say was. Melik, the black, passed away last late fall at the age of 16. His brother, Manya, passed away in late fall of '15. All three were trained by VDV for guard duty. Push your luck and I'll post Sophia, our blue.